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Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Gabby Rees Show. On this show, we discuss the complex topics around relationships, health, fitness, family, business, and so much more with the world's leading experts.

My goal is to simplify these topics and give you practical takeaways

that you can start using in your life today. We all know that living a healthy, balanced

life can be challenging. So let's try managing life a little better and have some fun along

the way. Because after all, life is just one big experiment.

Ben Greenfield, welcome to the show.

Thanks.

Nice to see you.

I've warmed up from your frigid pool.

I know, you know, listen, we were going to tape tomorrow, and then you came on pool training day.

I know.

Because you came with Dr. Chestnut.

Which I'm super happy about it.

Yeah, it was cute. It was like watching, watching boys going like, try to swim this down. Yeah. Yeah. The basketball and the volleyball and the water polo ball. That's actually, so the one where you put the ball between your legs and then swim down upside down. Yeah. That feels incredible on the back. Yeah.

The whole time I was doing, I'm like, oh, I just found a new exercise, the traction in the spine. Yeah. Because, you know, you can hang from gravity boots and from an inversion table, but like something about moving your upper body. Yeah. Gracefully. I don't know how graceful mine was. If someone's filming this right now, I look like a monkey trying to like transport a water melt to the bottom of a pool.

And then when you're pulling with your arms like that, then the buoyancy of the ball is kind of like tractioning.

I think like the, it feels like the sacrioliac joint or something right around like the lumbar sacral joints. Yeah. It felt amazing. I was doing five minutes of that. I got out after, you know, sitting in airplanes and Ubers and everything and my back feels great. Yeah. And it has the form of play in it too. Yeah. It's like kind of a play task. And all you need is a really deep cold pool. Yep. And some balls. and some. Yeah. You guys have balls. I, uh, before we started rolling, we were talking about that you've had your podcast since 2007. Mm-hmm. And, uh, I used to teach a class on Kauai and a lot of guys would be like, listening to you, uh, and asking me, do you know who Ben Greenfield is? Because I was like one of the only ones to listen to.

There were a lot of options.

Also, you were doing a lot of interesting things.

You've always sort of said, hey, I'm willing to put myself out there and kind of be a human

experiment.

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