From VeggieTales to the Enneagram: Mike Nawrocki on Peace, Presence, and Purpose

Typology

Ian Morgan Cron

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4.6 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

What happens when a peace-seeking Enneagram Nine becomes the voice of one of the most beloved animated characters in children’s television?

Find out as we dive into the world of the Enneagram with special guest Mike Nawrocki, co-creator of VeggieTales and the voice of Larry the Cucumber. In this engaging conversation, we explore the unique traits of Enneagram Nines, known as the Peacemakers.

Mike shares insights from his journey in creating beloved children's content, including his latest project, The Dead Sea Squirrels, which is now a growing book series and animated show. We discuss the motivations behind Nines, their tendency to avoid conflict, and the importance of claiming one's voice and presence in the world.

Whether you're familiar with the Enneagram or just curious about personality types, this episode offers valuable perspectives on self-awareness, personal growth, and the power of creativity. Don't miss this opportunity to learn more about the Enneagram and how it can enhance your understanding of yourself and others!

ABOUT MIKE NAWROCKI

As co-creator of VeggieTales, co-founder of Big Idea Entertainment, and the voice of Larry the Cucumber, Mike Nawrocki has been dedicated to helping parents pass on biblical values to their kids for over three decades. Mike is the offbeat brain behind Silly Songs with Larry, and has lent his screenwriting and directing talents to dozens of VeggieTales episodes, as well as both of the properties’ theatrical releases, Jonah and The Pirates Who Don’t Do Anything. His most recent project, an early reader book series entitled The Dead Sea Squirrels, has been adapted into a 13-episode animated series now streaming on Minno, with more books and a season 2 of animation currently in the works. Mike also serves as an assistant professor of film and animation at Lipscomb University in Nashville, TN, and co-hosts the weekly podcast, “The Bible for Kids.”

Website: https://mikenawrocki.com/ and Amazon Author Page
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0:00.0	Hey folks and welcome to Typology, the show on which we explore the mystery of the human personality and the human adventure all through the lens of the Enneagram.
0:12.8	My name is Anthony Skinner, your producer and co-host.
0:16.1	We've got a great guest for you today.
0:18.1	I'm talking about someone whose work likely shaped your childhood
0:21.8	or your kids in ways you didn't even realize. I'm talking about Mike Naraki. He is the co-creator
0:28.5	of Veggie Tales, the voice of Larry the Cucumber, and the offbeat genius behind those silly
0:34.7	songs with Larry. Great work, by the way. As co-founder of Big Idea
0:40.0	Entertainment, Mike spent decades helping families laugh, sing, and grow in biblical wisdom. And
0:46.2	many of you are probably nodding your heads right now. But his journey didn't stop there.
0:51.9	His most recent project, The Dead Sea Squirrels, is now a growing book series and animated
0:57.5	show streaming on Minnow.
0:59.4	Make sure you check that out.
1:00.6	He's also assistant professor of film and animation at Lipscomb University, where my son
1:06.5	just graduated from a couple years ago, and he's doing great in film and television right now,
1:12.0	by the way. And he is also, speaking of Mike, the co-host for the Bible for Kids podcast.
1:18.9	He's a self-identified Enegram 9, and we sort of just break the eyes today. It's a really
1:25.0	cool conversation. We get under the hood for nines, what motivates them.
1:29.6	And we ask some probing questions today. So I think you're really going to enjoy this conversation.
1:34.8	And it ends on a really cool note for something that we might do in the future. So anyway,
1:40.1	I know you're going to love this podcast. Glad you're here. That's it for me, Anthony Skinner.
1:44.0	And now, without any further ado, here's the host of the show, Ian Crone.
1:55.8	Hey, typology friends, welcome back.
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