Hello and welcome to the Movers and Shakers podcast. My name is Gino Barbaro, co-founder of Jake and Gino,

multifamily investor, educator, father, and mentor. Today we have Jeff Hamlin. He spent most

of his career selling toilet paper,

but as he will tell you, joining Jake and Gino changed the trajectory of his life and financial

well-being. He started by independently acquiring additional duplexes to then realize that

multifamily is a team sport. Jeff has since done several deals all with partners he met in the community. Welcome

to the show, Jeff Hamlin. Gino, so good to be here. Yeah, it's an honor to finally connect here.

And for all the listeners out there, I thought Jake was bad with tech. I think Jake, if you're

listening to this, I think Jeff Hamlin has surpassed you on that one. Brother, glad to be on with you. How are you doing today?

I'm glad to supplant Jake out of that position. Yeah, that's great.

Listen, I had a great conversation before we hit the record button, and you've been part of Jake and Gino for several years. What made you, well, okay, first of all, let's backtrack.

Why multifamily?

And give me a little bit background about your life and how you made the decision to join multifamily.

Oh, man.

Well, I mean, to start, I'm a father and a husband.

And we have a busy lifestyle.

We've been in residential real estate as realtors since 2005.

So always been around real estate. I live in Portland, Oregon, in Portlandia, where it's, you know, the laws and regulations have become crazy.

So we, years ago, we, we had, we always owned real estate, always had a, you know,

a condo or a single family residence. But with the law is changing, we decided around

2016 and 17 to try investing out of state. And so we invested in Kansas City with, you know, started with

single family before we knew anything. And just came to a point where it's hard to invest

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