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You need indeed. you're Hello Dan here. We're dropping a fun little treat into the feed today. It's an

episode of The Puzzler which is a new podcast from the writer A.J. Jacobs

who was a guest on this podcast at the beginning of December. We talked

about his new book, which is called The Puzzler, which is all about how to turn your

problems into puzzles and how that can have a really positive effect on your

mental health. He calls it the puzzle mindset. After the interview he asked me to

come on his new show which is called The Puzzler. It's a daily podcast where he has quote unquote

celebrities. I don't know if I meet that bar but anyway quote unquote celebrities come on and they

do a puzzle. I'm not really that into puzzles but I find

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