So when I came here in 2001, I first had to work at a Nordstrom warehouse, a minimum wage.

And back then, I think it was $6 an hour or something like that.

And it was so boring as hell.

It was like, because I was doing data entry for all.

So it's like eight hours of data entry. Can you imagine that?

It's absolutely crazy. So in order to inspire myself and just keep going was that I treated it like a game.

So what I wanted to do was to make sure as an entrepreneur, you want to mitigate risks.

So whenever you transition from a corporate job to starting your own business,

you want to have it be the least risky transition as possible.

So in order to do that, I really took my time.

I was super patient.

I wanted to build up enough capital to last me, number one, so that when I made the transition, even if I had zero clients, I would survive just fine.

Right.

So in the financial crisis, late 2008, I put 75% of my net worth into three stocks.

Okay, so 11 years ago.

Yes.

So you go out and start your own company.

Is that wealth arch?

Yes.

Okay.

Okay.

So when you went out and started your own company, how did you feel?

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