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Smashing Security

From Instagram panic to Grok gone wild

Smashing Security

Graham Cluley

News, Tech News, Technology

4.7579 Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Confusion reigns after claims that data linked to 17.5 million Instagram accounts is up for sale - sparked by a vague post, contradictory statements, and a flood of password reset emails nobody asked for.

And we dig into Grok, Elon Musk’s AI chatbot, after it started generating sexualised images of women and children - raising uncomfortable questions about guardrails, accountability, and why playing the censorship card doesn’t make the problem go away.

All this, and much more, in this episode of the "Smashing Security" podcast with Graham Cluley, and special guest Monica Verma.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

But you know what, Monica, they don't care.

0:07.4

I know, and that's the problem, but we have to.

0:10.7

There's only one thing that they care about.

0:13.6

Profit.

0:14.6

And therefore, we should be putting pressure on the companies which advertise on these services

0:20.3

and saying, do you really want to be there?

0:22.7

With Smashing Security, episode 450, from Instagram Panic to Grock Gone Wild, with Graham Cluley and special guest Monica Verma.

0:42.1

Hello, hello, and welcome to Smash Insecurity episode 450.

0:45.6

My name is Graham Cluley.

0:47.2

And I'm Monica Verme.

0:48.6

Hi, Monica, first time on the show.

0:51.2

Thank you so much for joining us today.

0:53.7

Monica, if there's anyone listening to

0:55.8

Smash Insecurity who hasn't encountered you before, can you quickly sum up who you are and what you do?

1:02.4

Yeah, absolutely. I'm a former CISO. I've been in this industry for more than 20 years. I started

1:09.1

my journey as a hacker and then went into risk management and then became a C.

1:14.5

So I am still a hacker because it's a mindset more than just absolutely is.

1:20.8

I truly believe that.

1:22.0

A good hacker, right?

1:23.9

You're not one of those badie hackers.

1:25.3

No, absolutely.

1:26.3

A white hat hacker.

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