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From "How We Survive": ESG, Reincarnated

Make Me Smart

Marketplace

Business, News

4.65.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Hey Smarties! Today we’re sharing an episode from the latest season of “How We Survive,” Marketplace’s climate solutions podcast. Host Amy Scott and the team have been digging into the rise and fall of environmental, social and governance-based investing, or ESG. In this episode, ESG comes back to life in new forms of climate-conscious investing.

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. I'm Amy Scott, host of How We Survive. On September 9th, I'll join Kai Risdahl, host of Marketplace, and science writer Elizabeth Colbert for a conversation about how the accelerating climate crisis could lead to economic disruption. And we'll talk about some of the solutions that are giving us hope right now. The webinar is free and it's open to the public. You can sign up today at marketplace.org slash climate.

0:28.4

Listeners of our podcast, how we survive, know that we talk a lot about climate solutions, including our latest season about how our money can either fund solutions or be part of the problem.

0:40.8

Hope you enjoy this episode.

0:43.4

If I'm an investor, you know, worried about the climate crisis, what kind of impact do my retirement savings have?

0:51.6

It turns out that moving your investments to a climate-friendly investment option

1:00.4

is the single most impactful thing that the average American can do for climate change.

1:07.7

We've been talking so far this season about other people's money, the trillions of dollars

1:14.0

of investor capital that can fund climate solutions or keep fueling the crisis.

1:20.4

But what about you and me?

1:22.0

What can we as individuals do to protect our savings from climate risk and not contribute to the problem?

1:30.2

To find out, I called up Alex Wright Gladstein. She's the founder and CEO of Sphere, a company

1:37.5

focused on climate-friendly investing. And Alex says there's a lot of invisible power in our retirement portfolios.

1:48.0

Turns out it's more impactful than the combination of going vegan, never flying again, driving an electric car, putting solar on your house.

1:57.7

Sphere has a tool online where you can look up the carbon impact of your workplace retirement

2:03.1

plan.

2:04.4

I type in Marketplace's parent company.

2:08.2

Ooh, $19 million.

2:11.7

This is how much American Public Media Group employees have invested in fossil fuel companies

2:16.2

through their retirement savings

2:17.6

plan.

2:18.9

And scroll through the report, which is based on tax filings from 2021, on average, about $15,700 per

2:28.6

employee.

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