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🗓️ 2 September 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Hey Smarties! Today we’re passing the mic to our friends over at “How We Survive,” Marketplace’s climate solutions podcast. Their latest season digs into the rise and fall of environmental, social and governance-based investing, or ESG. In this episode, host Amy Scott and the team dig into how one Texas law spurred a right-wing movement against ESG.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, everyone. Amy Scott here, host of How We Survive. I want to tell you about a special webinar we have coming up on September 9th. It's called The Climate Crisis is an Economic Crisis. And it'll be a conversation between me, Marketplace host, Kai Rizzdahl, and Pulitzer Prize-winning science writer Elizabeth Colbert. We'll talk about how the |
| 0:22.4 | accelerating climate crisis could lead to economic disruption, and we'll share some solutions |
| 0:28.1 | that are giving us hope right now. The event is free and open to the public. You can sign up today |
| 0:34.3 | at marketplace.org slash climate. |
| 0:44.1 | You know, investors on Wall Street are well aware of the economic implications of climate change, but in recent years, investing with a climate lens has become part of the culture wars. |
| 0:50.6 | Here's an episode from the latest season of how we survive about the rise and fall of climate conscious investing. |
| 0:58.0 | In this episode, we investigate the plot to kill ESG. |
| 1:04.8 | So how would you describe the smell? |
| 1:08.7 | We haven't even gotten to the worst of it. |
| 1:12.3 | I'm on the bow of the Sam Houston, an elegant 95-foot boat. |
| 1:18.5 | With the breeze in my hair and the state flag of Texas flapping overhead, it's got the |
| 1:24.3 | vibe of a pleasure cruise, if it weren't for the smell. |
| 1:28.5 | Oh, yeah, now it's really pungent. |
| 1:31.0 | My colleague Elizabeth Troval, who covers energy for Marketplace, |
| 1:35.1 | invited me on this boat tour, a ride along the Houston Ship Channel, |
| 1:39.4 | the industrial waterway that connects the port of Houston to the Gulf of Mexico. |
| 1:44.1 | As we leave the Turner Basin off to the left, you will see public grain elevator, number one. |
| 1:50.0 | Chugging along, we see big metal grain elevators and giant cargo ships from far away countries, |
| 1:57.0 | which Elizabeth looks up on her phone. |
| 1:59.0 | Her length overall is 179.98 meters, and her width is 32 meters. |
| 2:05.4 | She's a hefty lass. |
| 2:07.5 | Until we reach the source of that smell, the oil refineries. |
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