Hey, pull up a chair.

It's Hacks on Tap with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy.

And by the way, I never went to the island and Bill Clinton went there supposedly, uh, 28 times.

I never went to the island, but Larry Summers, I hear, went there.

He was the head of Harvard and many other people that are very big people.

Nobody ever talks about them. I never had the

privilege of going to his island. And I did turn it down, but a lot of people in Palm Beach were

invited to his island. In one of my very good moments, I turned it down. I didn't want to go to

his island. Never been to the island. Yes, little St. James Island, ironically, in

the Virgin Islands, that was Jeffrey Epstein's private island there where he apparently

allegedly, and I guess it's been now established, young women and did horrible things to them. So, Liz Smith,

you're here. Good to see you again. Uh, quite an intro there. Yes, I know. I wanted to put a

little pause before all of that, before I introduce you.

There's no connection.

So, guys, this thing is sticking to Trump like tar paper, and it seems like everything he does kind of perpetuates the story.

Well, it's probably true because it fits and he's acting like the classic guilty dog barking the loudest.

You know, and he doesn't know how to slither out of this.

And it's perfect mega, you know, internet child.

So it's sort of a beautiful, perfect storm.

Now, I don't know if it means a damn to somebody out in real voter world down the road here.

But boy, oh, boy, is it gum in the gears. And it's fun to watch.

Even though when you step back and think about it, it's horrific that an American president would be anywhere near something like this, basically a

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