Red Hats and Red Flags (with Robert Costa)

Hacks On Tap

David Axelrod & Mike Murphy

News Commentary, News, Government, Politics

4.8 • 7.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

This week, Murphy and Heilemann are joined by ink-stained Hackeroo Robert Costa—national correspondent for CBS News Sunday Morning and chief Washington analyst for CBS News, as well as co-author of Peril. The Hacks break down Hunter Biden’s recent interview—and yes, a certain Hackeroo got name-checked, much to his surprise (and ours). They dig into the weight of Joe Biden’s legacy as the Democratic primary field begins to stir, the voters feeling left behind, and the Trump economy barreling toward a potential recession. Plus: a six-month check-in on Trump’s second term—who’s in, who’s out, and who’s still clinging to relevance in MAGAland.

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0:00.0	Hey, pull up a chair.
0:10.0	It's Hacks on Tap with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy.
0:14.0	I hear Rahm Emanuel is going to run for president.
0:25.0	What a f***.
0:26.6	Like, David Axelrod's going to run his campaign for him.
0:29.6	That's like, oh, boy, there's the answer.
0:31.9	There's the f***ing answer.
0:33.5	Genius is all.
0:35.7	Well, there he is.
0:37.1	Hunter Biden having a little rage therapy.
0:40.0	We had a response from Rahm Emanuel, but this is a family show, and it's unprintable.
0:45.0	But, uh, Heilman, what do you think?
0:47.8	What do you think of the meltdown on Hunter Biden on the YouTube show where he was interviewed?
0:52.0	And he went on for like three hours.
0:53.5	Right.
0:53.9	I think, very unhappy Right. I think...
0:54.4	Very unhappy guy.
0:55.7	I think, well, good to see you, first of all, Murphy.
0:52.1	And I would just say, you know, people say that the hacks don't love each other, that we're not, you know, we don't have each other's backs. And I would say, this is a good example of the fact that we do. because if we were really, if we didn't love David,
1:12.9	we would play the other roughly 37 attacks on him by Hunter Biden in that, in that.
1:17.6	Yeah, I enjoyed those personally with headphones earlier, but if anybody wants to hear
1:23.5	them, they're now my ringtone and my outgoing voicemail message. So if you want to call
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