From Gaza refugee to ambassador - Husam Zomlot's vision for peace between Israel and Palestine
Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy
Channel 4 News
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🗓️ 26 September 2025
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
Husam Zomlot was born in a refugee camp in Gaza and has since become one of the most prominent Palestinian voices on the world stage. In 2017, Zomlot was appointed envoy to the United States, until the Trump administration shut down the PLO mission in Washington. The following year he became Head of the Palestinian Mission in London, a role that has now been elevated to Ambassador after the UK’s formal recognition of the State of Palestine. He has been a leading voice for Gaza throughout the recent conflict, while also enduring devastating personal loss, with members of his own family killed in the violence.
In this episode of Ways to Change the World, Husam Zomlot speaks with Krishnan Guru-Murthy about his childhood, the growing recognition of a Palestinian state and the hope for him and his people.
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| 0:00.0 | The rest of the world is finally recognizing the state of Palestine, including the UK. |
| 0:04.2 | It took a genocide for that to happen. |
| 0:06.2 | Many people think the two-state solution is a Palestinian demand. |
| 0:09.0 | May I correct this? |
| 0:10.1 | The two-state solution was a Palestinian concession. |
| 0:12.8 | Wherever I go in the West, not just in the UK, Israel needs security. |
| 0:16.5 | I, okay, and we don't need security? |
| 0:18.8 | Why don't you say Palestine need security? |
| 0:20.5 | And who provides us with security? |
| 0:22.3 | And how can we protect our people? |
| 0:25.4 | We will not establish a state as a function of what Israel wants. |
| 0:28.4 | We will establish a state as a function of what the Palestinian people want and deserve. |
| 0:32.5 | I want to see our children in playgrounds in schools. |
| 0:35.8 | The honor of my life really is to represent the Palestinian people. |
| 0:45.8 | Hello and welcome to Ways to Change the World. |
| 0:48.2 | I'm Christian Guru Murphy and this is the podcast in which we talk to extraordinary people |
| 0:52.4 | about the big ideas in their lives and the events |
| 0:55.0 | that have helped shape them. My guest today was born in a refugee camp in Gaza and has since |
| 1:00.0 | become one of the most prominent Palestinian voices on the world stage, an academic, strategist, |
| 1:05.4 | advisor to presidents, and a diplomat. In 2017, Hussein Zomlott was appointed envoy to the United States until the Trump |
| 1:12.8 | administration shut down the PLO mission in Washington. The following year, he became head of the |
| 1:17.8 | Palestinian mission in London, a role that has now been elevated to ambassador after the UK's formal |
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