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Flying Free

From Deconstructing to Reconstructing: Finding Wonder Again [373]

Flying Free

Natalie Hoffman

Divorce, Religion & Spirituality, Spiritual, Self-improvement, Narcissism, Christian, Education, Christianity, Abuse, Emotional, Marriage

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

This is one of my favorite interviews! Today I’m talking with my friend, Dr. Tiffany Yecke Brooks, author of Gaslighted by God, Holy Ghosted, and her brand-new book, To Rebehold the Stars: Reimagining Faith After Deconstruction.

If you've walked through the painful process of deconstructing the toxic theology you inherited, this conversation is going to knock your socks off. 


Drawing from Dante's Inferno (I know, right?!), classical literature, and deep theological study, Tiffany shows you how to create a new spiritual lexicon that actually reflects the heart of God.


(Listen to find out what that even is!)


This isn't about burning it all down. It's about holding up each piece to the light and deciding: Does this stay or go?


🔑 Key Takeaways:

  • The one thing fundamentalism can't tolerate (and why that's actually your doorway to freedom)
  • What Dante's Inferno has to do with your faith journey, and why the final line matters so much
  • The Greek word that completely reframes what forgiveness actually means
  • Why the images you were given for God might be keeping you stuck in an outdated script
  • What happens when you stop trying to be perfect and start focusing on being good

Resources mentioned: 


📰 Tiffany’s Substack Newsletter (but only if you like to laugh - otherwise stay away)

📚 Her new book: To Rebehold the Stars: Reimagining Faith After Deconstruction.

🎧 Her OTHER interviews with me (all AMAZEBALLS): 

  1. Confronting Religious Trauma
  2. Overcoming Spiritual Anxiety 

👹 The book Dr. Brooks copy-edited for me AND that is a perfect illustration of what her book Holy Ghosted is talking about: All the Scary Little Gods


🆓 And hey - listen to my book FREE by going to scarylittlegods.com!

Tiffany Yecke Brooks is the lead or contributing writer on more than two dozen books, including multiple New York Times bestsellers. She is the coauthor of Fear Is a Choice: Tackling Life’s Challenges With Dignity, Faith, and Determination (with NFL running back James Conner), Limitless: The Power of Hope and Resilience to Overcome Circumstance (with Paralympic gold-medalist Mallory Weggemann), and the narrative nonfiction historical thriller Espionage and Enslavement in the Revolution: The True Story of Robert Townsend and Elizabeth (with historian Claire Bellerjeau). Her newest book, To Rebehold the Stars: Reimagining Faith After Deconstruction, was released in March 2026 by Eerdmans. She has also published articles in peer-reviewed journals and the Smithsonian. Tiffany holds a PhD from Florida State University, where her dissertation covered, in part, cultural adaptations of stories from the book of Genesis, and an MA from the University of Bristol in the UK, where her thesis examined cultural influences and literary techniques in the Gospel of Luke. A popular speaker for student groups, faith conferences, and academic lectureships, Tiffany has taught literature and writing at Abilene Christian University, McMurry University, and the University of South Carolina – Beaufort.


Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Natalie Hoffman of Flying FreeNow.com, and you're listening to the Flying Free Podcast,

0:08.9

a support resource for women of faith looking for hope and healing from hidden emotional and spiritual abuse.

0:17.5

Welcome to episode 373 of the Flying Free Podcast.

0:23.0

Today we have one of my favorite returning guests, my friend Dr. Tiffany Yucky Brooks.

0:29.1

She is the author of Gaslighted by God Reconstructing a Disillusioned Faith and Holy Ghosted, spiritual anxiety, religious trauma, and the language

0:40.8

of abuse. And by the way, she has been on this podcast where we've had discussions about both of

0:46.6

those books in the past. And she's also been a special guest inside of our membership group.

0:51.9

And perks of being a member, right? You get a little bit more

0:54.8

when you're a member than you do on the podcast. But throughout the course of our relationship,

0:59.7

we have become friends. And more so, I think, when I hired her to help me with the copy editing

1:05.4

of my own book, all the scary little gods. And I can't remember, were you actually writing Holy Ghosted

1:12.2

at the same time that I was working on that book? I was. It was kind of in post-production. So we

1:18.3

were doing the edits and getting it ready to, to come out. Okay. So those books, I think are like

1:23.8

sister books. Your book, Holy Ghosted, it's like it defines the problem and then

1:30.4

it talks about healing. And then my book is kind of a story of what that actually looks like in

1:35.3

real life. Absolutely. Yeah. What were you, I'm just curious before we get into your newest book,

1:41.4

because Tiffany has written a third book that we want to talk about today.

1:45.0

That's amazing.

1:46.0

But I'm just curious, what were you, what were some of your thoughts as you read my story

1:52.0

on the heels of actually writing Holy Ghosted?

1:55.0

I'll admit there were times where I would get really mad because I'd be like,

1:59.0

man, I wish I had written this. This is so good,

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