Friendship During Covid (feat. Anna Koppelman)
Overthink
Ellie Anderson, Ph.D. and David Peña-Guzmán, Ph.D.
4.7 • 550 Ratings
🗓️ 27 April 2021
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
On episode 24 of Overthink, Ellie and David tackle friendship during Covid. They begin by discussing their dream day with friends, which includes: brunch, thrift store shopping, and team sports, all of which have been impossible to do during the pandemic. What has social distancing meant for friendship? They bring on special guest, undergraduate Anna Koppelman (Overthink's production assistant and social media coordinator!), to discuss how Covid has impacted college students' social lives. The three talk Heidegger, Aristotle, and how sad it is to have no fun gossip anymore! Finally, David and Ellie analyze how gender has affected Covid friendships, Epicurus supporting "pods" before it was cool, and more!
Works Discussed:
Lydia Denworth, Friendship: The Evolution, Biology, and Extraordinary Power of Life’s Fundamental Bond
Beverley Fehr, Friendship Processes
Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics
Immanuel Kant, Metaphysical Principles of Virtue
Octavio Paz, The Labyrinth of Solitude
Samantha Schmidt, The Washington Post, Men find new ways to Bond During the Pandemic
Jeffrey A. Hall, How many hours does it take to make a friend?
Martin Heidegger, What Is Metaphysics?
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm David Pena Guzman. |
| 0:09.1 | And I'm Ellie Anderson. |
| 0:11.0 | Welcome to Overthink. |
| 0:12.7 | The podcast were two friends, who are also professors, put philosophy in dialogue with the everyday. |
| 0:19.4 | Because big ideas are within everyone's reach. |
| 0:28.6 | This is the first episode in a three-part series on how the COVID-19 pandemic has changed relationships. |
| 0:35.2 | Ellie, moment of truth. |
| 0:38.0 | Have you become friendless during COVID? |
| 0:44.9 | Yes. |
| 0:46.2 | No, I have not become friendless, but COVID has put major strains on friendships. |
| 0:52.0 | And it's caused a sort of redrawing of the lines of different friend |
| 0:56.9 | groups in ways that I really hope are reversible because it's honestly been totally stressing |
| 1:02.0 | me out. Wait, so you're saying that your current configuration of friendship is not good and you |
| 1:06.9 | want to go back to what it was before. I'm sure your friends who are in that configuration will love hearing that. |
| 1:15.2 | Well, no, because part of it is that I haven't made any new friends during COVID. |
| 1:18.9 | I've just maintained some friendships and others have sort of not been maintained as well. |
| 1:25.7 | And I'm hoping that's reversible. |
| 1:27.3 | So if you had to put it into a few |
| 1:30.5 | words, what your experience of friendship has been under this pandemic, how would you put it? |
| 1:40.7 | I would say that a lot of my friendships feel like they've gone into hibernation mode where I'm not seeing my friends and we're doing a pretty bad job of keeping up with each other's lives. |
| 1:53.2 | But I'm hoping that the friendship survives and kind of thaws out and flourishes once again after the pandemic. |
| 2:01.5 | And then it freezes again and gets thawed again. |
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