Dating During Covid

Overthink

Ellie Anderson, Ph.D. and David Peña-Guzmán, Ph.D.

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Education

4.7 • 550 Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

In episode 25 of Overthink, Ellie and David discuss dating during Covid--including their own experiences! With so many Americans getting vaccinated, the dating scene may be heating up again--but what philosophical lessons can we learn from the past year of pandemic dating? Ellie gives a sociological history of dating, and David wonders about how socially distant dating changes class dynamics. Then the two talk about how pandemic dating involves a "phenomenology of acceleration" and a "phenomenology of failure," as well as what attachment theory shows about dating in social isolation. Also discussed: going on a "first date" many months into dating, mental health, and David's support of "impurity culture."

Works Discussed:
Eva Illouz, Consuming the Romantic Utopia
Jean-Paul Sartre, No Exit
Lawrence L. Levine, Highbrow/Lowbrow
Beth L. Bailey, From Front Porch to Back Seat: Courtship in Twentieth-Century America
Moira Weigel, Labor of Love
John Bowlby, The Making and Breaking of Affectional Bonds
Amir Levine and Rachel S.F. Heller, Attached

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm David Pena Guzman.
0:08.5	And I'm Ellie Anderson.
0:10.1	Welcome to Overthink.
0:11.9	The podcast for two friends, who are also professors, put philosophy in dialogue with the everyday.
0:18.4	Because big ideas are within everyone's reach.
0:30.2	This is the second episode in a three-part series on how the COVID-19 pandemic has changed relationships.
0:37.4	David, what's your dating life been like during COVID? Bear on how the COVID-19 pandemic has changed relationships.
0:40.5	David, what's your dating life been like during COVID?
0:44.6	Barren, dead, non-existent.
0:50.2	As I've mentioned before, I'm in an open relationship, but it just seems like so much work to date during COVID.
0:51.6	So I have de facto become an honorary monogamous person out of sheer laziness.
0:57.2	And what I've been hearing from all my friends who are dating is that it's shockingly complicated.
1:04.5	Yeah. I mean, I feel like COVID dating has caused all sorts of new problems to arise.
1:10.2	Like, how do you date when social distancing is required?
1:13.8	How do you communicate effectively during a pandemic when social distancing is required?
1:18.9	What happens if you start dating somebody and it causes drama with people that you're
1:22.5	living with because of COVID safety?
1:24.8	But then at the same time, I've also been hearing people complain about the very
1:29.0	same problems with dating that dating usually has outside of a pandemic, right? People are
1:34.7	ghosting and getting ghosted. Listen to our episode on ghosting. Yes, for some insight there.
1:40.5	You know, and some people are getting into relationships, others into situationships. And still
1:46.1	others are finding themselves dating for the first time in years after they had a long-term
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