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I'm very, very pleased to be joined by Fred Gutenberg, somebody who has taken tragedy and imbued as best he can

it with the meaning, the conviction, the hope that he can make things better, and that what happened

to him, his family, and his beautiful daughter, Jamie, on February the 14th, will never, ever

happen again in this country.

But sadly, it does. time and time and time again.

There are a few people that I admire more, that I respect more, and who I am more in awe of for his simple ability to inspire after a tragedy that I think for a

generation of American parents is profoundly our worst fear.

The idea that you can drop your child off at school, a place where

they are supposed to be safe and know that they may never come home again. And that fear was

realized for Fred Gutenberg and his family and 16 other American families in Florida one day.

And this is something that has happened all over America and is allowed to continue to happen,

in part because of the spinelessness of a political class that is intimidated by extremist organizations, by their menace,

and is afraid to take the steps necessary to protect the most vulnerable amongst us,

our schoolchildren, but in the end, all of us.

So, Fred Gutenberg, welcome.

Thank you. It's good to see you in person. I know we've followed each other for quite some time,

but I think this is our first time actually doing an interview with each other. So thanks for asking me to be on.

It is. It's a real privilege.

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