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The Good Fight

Francis Fukuyama’s Defense of Liberalism

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2021

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Francis Fukuyama, one of the most important living political scientists, is a senior fellow at Stanford University’s Freeman Spogli Institute. His writing spans from the origins of society in earliest prehistory to the rise of modern democracy and the identity wars of the 21st century. His new book, Liberalism and Its Discontents, a defense of the values of free societies, is scheduled for release in April 2022.   In this week’s conversation, Francis Fukuyama and Yascha Mounk discuss how neoliberalism has gone awry, the excesses of individualism on both the right and the left, and how to rejuvenate liberalism. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: podcast@persuasion.community  Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John T. Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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There's a lot of things that make liberal societies attractive, you know, that they are more innovative,

0:36.6

they're richer, they're more culturally rich.

0:39.6

You think of all of the things that have come out of classically liberal societies over the centuries and

0:45.8

you know that's basically the modern world in many respects and I think that we need to

0:50.3

kind of constantly remind ourselves that that's really what we're fighting to

0:53.8

reserve. And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. Believe me, I'm as tired as you are of thinking about yet another story in which parts of American academia have gone mad,

1:16.6

yet another story in which somebody was quote-unquote canceled for their political views.

1:24.8

But what has happened at MIT at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology

1:29.5

over the last weeks is, I think, something more than just another campus cancel story.

1:37.0

Dorian Abbott is a geophysicist at the University of Chicago.

1:41.0

He was meant to give a big public lecture on climate change at MIT and then the

1:47.2

campaign to cancel him began. The reason is that he had written a piece in Newsweek in a big national magazine advocating for what he calls a merit fairness and equality framework.

2:01.0

He opposes affirmative action, but he also opposes legacy and athletic admissions, which as he points out,

2:06.8

significantly favor wide applicants.

2:10.8

Whether or not his beliefs are right, they are widely held in the American population.

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