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The Good Fight

Ross Douthat on the Trouble with Experts

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2021

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Ross Douthat, a columnist for The New York Times, has long advocated for a brand of reform conservatism that stands in stark contrast to Trumpism. His latest book, The Deep Places: A Memoir of Illness and Discovery, chronicles his long struggle with Lyme disease. In this week’s conversation, Ross Douthat and Yascha Mounk discuss why the expert consensus sometimes fails, when to listen to outsiders, and whether the failures of the establishment help to explain the rise of populism. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: podcast@persuasion.community  Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John T. Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

The Economist provides independent journalism for independent thinking and has been

0:05.1

championing progress for almost 200 years.

0:08.3

With the Economist, you gain access to fact-based, deeply researched expert analysis of world events and topics

0:14.3

ranging from business and culture to politics, science and technology.

0:18.2

Tune into the global conversation with reporting from correspondence around the world,

0:23.0

available in-app online through podcasts and print.

0:26.5

So for fact sake, search the economist. And the And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:52.8

My name is Seth Mosk.

0:58.8

My name is Seth Moskowitz and I'm an associate editor at Persuasion.

1:03.3

I recently wrote a piece for persuasion called Commercial Interests

1:06.4

Aren't Enough to Save Free Speech.

1:08.3

And the piece is all about what happened at Netflix

1:10.6

after the company released Dave Chappelle's new stand-up special called The Closer.

1:16.7

In the show Chappelle makes jokes about pretty much every identity group, including Jewish

1:21.2

people, black people, white people, and gay people, but activists were most

1:26.0

angry at his jokes about transgender people, to the point where some were actually calling

1:30.6

on Netflix to take the special down from their streaming service.

1:34.5

In response to those demands Netflix's co-cee.

1:37.4

Ted Sarandos sent out a memo that rejected these activists demands and that statement does highlight the company's

1:44.4

commitment to creative freedom but it also makes it clear that Netflix is

1:48.8

defending Dave Chappelle largely because of the financial interest that it has to do that.

1:54.4

Surandos wrote in the memo that Chappelle is, quote, one of the most popular stand-up

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