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FPP210 - 600knots Through Chicago: From F-22 Raptor to Reinvention

Fighter Pilot Podcast

Tucker "Cinco" Hamilton, Retired U.S. Air Force Fighter Test Pilot

Leisure, History, Aviation, Technology, Personal Journals, Government, Society & Culture

4.92.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

What does it take to command the F-22 Raptor at the edge of the envelope — and then pull the power to idle in a vertical tailslide over 100,000 people? — and then reinvent yourself beyond the cockpit?

Josh “Cabo” Gunderson joins Cinco to unpack elite performance, humility under pressure, the dominance of the Raptor at Red Flag, and the deeper question every operator must face: who are you when the afterburners go quiet? From Cuban immigrant roots to leading the F-22 Demonstration Team before millions, Cabo shares hard-earned lessons on discipline, decision-making, mission command, and finding purpose beyond the uniform.




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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Fighter Pilot Podcast, the Internet radio show that explores the fascinating world of air combat past, present, and future.

0:16.7

The aircraft, the weapons systems, the emerging technologies, and most importantly, the people.

0:22.2

I'm your host, Tucker Hamilton, call sign Cinco.

0:25.4

Quick disclaimer, the views expressed in this episode are those of the participants

0:28.4

and do not reflect the official policy or position of the United States government.

0:32.8

All right, with that, today's guest is someone who has lived at the intersection of elite

0:36.5

aviation performance,

0:37.9

leadership under pressure, and now entrepreneurship in the private cycle. Josh Gunderson,

0:43.6

call sign Cabo, is a former United States Air Force fighter pilot who has flown both the F-15C Eagle

0:49.0

and the F-22 Raptor. He went on to serve as the commander and pilot of the F-22 demonstration

0:54.0

team at Langley Air Force Base,

0:56.0

where he led an 18-member team responsible for showcasing one of the most advanced fighter aircraft of the world to more than 10 million spectators annually.

1:04.7

But Cabo's story doesn't stop in the cockpit. Like many of us who have spent years operating the edge of performance inside large institutions, he eventually stepped into the entrepreneurial world, applying lessons learned in high-consequence

1:15.9

environments like combat aviation, mission command, and demonstration flying to the challenge

1:21.4

of building and leading organizations in competitive markets.

1:24.8

From dreaming of flying fighters as a kid to commanding the F-22 demo team,

1:29.2

to now navigating the transition from tactical excellence to business leadership.

1:33.1

Cabo represents a growing cohort of operators working to translate operational experience

1:37.6

into innovation in the private sector.

1:40.2

Today, we're going to talk about his journey.

1:42.3

Get ready.

1:43.1

Fights on.

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