FPP209 - When (and Where) 5th Gen Simulation Meets Reality
Fighter Pilot Podcast
Tucker "Cinco" Hamilton, Retired U.S. Air Force Fighter Test Pilot
4.9 • 2.1K Ratings
🗓️ 20 February 2026
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
As software has become the center of gravity for 5th generation fighters, simulation has become increasingly foundational to testing and fielding those aircraft.
On this episode, Doug “Rosie” Rosenstock, a U.S. Marine Corps Harrier-turned-test pilot who helped shape the F-35's mission systems and its simulation backbone, explores how the joint simulation environment was—and is—instrumental in the F-35's adoption by frontline forces.
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| 0:00.0 | Time has come for us to tackle a truly important topic. |
| 0:12.7 | Fourier transforms and their role in Bayesian statistics. |
| 0:16.6 | Of course, we're not going to talk about that. |
| 0:18.9 | Don't be ridiculous. |
| 0:20.0 | Because Fourier-based approaches to Bayesian inference are way too frequency domain-dependent and completely disconnected from the intuitive time-domain nature of the rudimentary Bayesian framework. |
| 0:28.6 | Duh. Instead, let's talk about the future of simulation and how it's reshaping fighter pilots, combat training, and machines we fly. |
| 0:36.6 | Today, I'm joined |
| 0:38.4 | by the preeminent mind and fighter simulation, Marine fighter pilot, test pilot, and F-35 heavyweight, |
| 0:44.0 | Douglas Rosenstock call sign Rosie. Rosie is a Marine who became a weapons officer, attended |
| 0:49.6 | test pilot school, and after a short stint, developing weapons for fourth-gen fighters, became one of the |
| 0:55.0 | very first test pilots in the F-35 program. He went on to serve as the world's leading voice |
| 0:59.4 | on F-35 mission systems, leading that effort for nearly a decade. After that, he served as an F-35 |
| 1:05.0 | B-course instructor, and today he's the leading advocate and visionary for advanced F-35 simulation, |
| 1:11.1 | working closely with Navy at Pax River to shape the future of how we train, test, and fight. |
| 1:16.7 | Turn in, fights on. |
| 1:23.8 | Rosie, welcome to the fighter pilot podcast. |
| 1:27.0 | Thanks for having me, Sinko. |
| 1:28.7 | So quick disclaimer, the views expressed by Rosie are his personal opinions and do not |
| 1:33.7 | represent the U.S. Navy or the U.S. government. |
| 1:36.4 | You're a legend in our community, man. |
| 1:38.3 | Not just because you're brilliant, unmatched pilot, almost as good as me. |
| 1:42.1 | Not kidding, you're way better than me, but because you actually get things done. We had the privilege of sitting next to each other during our |
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