Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the fighter pilot podcast. I'm your host Cinco, and today we're doing something a little different. If you've been listening the last few months, you've heard me talk a lot about AI and autonomy,

where aviation and national security are headed.

But today we're turning the show around a bit.

So I've got a new book out called Unlocking the Last 20%, and it's a little more personal than what we usually get into on the show.

Because today, I want to talk about something that I think is actually going to

matter for what the future demands of us. And that's the idea that we should all be pushing

to become better versions of ourselves. It's the fighter pilot way. We debrief everything. We look

for mistakes. We chase marginal gains. We try to close a gap between who we are and who we need

to be when it counts. So rather than subject you all to me interviewing myself for the next hour, I figured I'd bring back one of the few people professionally qualified to ask me uncomfortable questions in public. Jello, welcome back to the show, my friend. My goodness, Cinco, that was awesome. And man, I think you covered it already. I think we can

slap the table and call it good. But yeah, what a lead in. And it's good to be back on the show. Thank you. Yeah, no, it's great having you back. What do you've been up to since you've had so much time basically kicking your feet up and I'm sure watching, you know, your favorite soap opera? Oh, well, hey, I've been listening to the fighter pilot podcast and I love the energy

and the angle you bring on the episodes, everything from where the F-35 has been, which I never

flew, so that's very fascinating, some of the integration of the simulators and the autonomy

and all that, as well as folks going into space or having been, and the F-22 demo, which is always fun to hear about again. That's a topic people love. So now, it's been fun to listen to the show. I think you're doing a great job. I've been, as you know, and of course, listeners might assume helping just a little bit of the background stuff on the show, keeping it going so you can just focus on

getting the interviews and doing all that. But otherwise, just more stuff at home, like I said

before, at the end of the year's episode last year, a little bit more flying, been to Hawaii a couple

times. And I'm scheming a couple other things that maybe we can talk after this, but I want this

to be about you today.

Yeah, I would definitely love to hear your scheming plans.

And it reminds me every time I sit down and do an interview, just how fantastic you were in developing the show and developing the conversations that matter.

So I can't thank you enough for your leadership that you've

brought to the space. And the shoes are very large to fill. And I am slowly, definitely not there

anywhere close to there. But, you know, I'm feeling my way around. You know, maybe one day I'll

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