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🗓️ 24 November 2021
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Sofie talks to Dr Gwen Adshead about meeting people in the middle of their stories, attachment, working with violent patients, evil states of mind, shadow sides, cruelty, mistakes, gender, identity, group therapy, life development studies, Broadmoor, and rehabilitation.
Content Warning: COVID, mental health, postnatal depression, violence, murder, therapy, medicine, prisons, trauma, hospitals, arson, stalking, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, abuse, refugees, death, bereavement, sexual abuse, child abuse, holocaust, "the final solution", substance use, intoxication
The Devil You Know: Stories of Human Cruelty and Compassion by Gwen Adshead and Eileen Horne: https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-devil-you-know/gwen-adshead/eileen-horne/9780571357604
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0:00.0 | I go in there as a therapist who is interested in what people who've done terrible things |
0:08.3 | have to say about who they are and what they want to be in the future, where they've |
0:15.6 | been, where they are now, where they want to go. |
0:18.4 | For me, that's my most important thing to convey. |
0:21.0 | Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. |
0:25.8 | You are listening to the Who Hurt You Podcast. |
0:28.2 | I am your host, Sophie Hagen, and we still don't have a jingle. |
0:32.0 | Dr. Gwen Adset is a forensics psychiatrist and psychotherapist who has worked at Broadmoor |
0:37.8 | here in the UK. |
0:39.1 | Broadmoor is a secure psychiatric hospital. |
0:42.0 | In the olden days, it was called the less flattering and more problematic, Broadmoor criminal |
0:47.6 | lunatic asylum, which is famous for having some of the UK's most notorious criminals detained. |
0:54.1 | People like serial killer Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper. |
0:57.9 | The Stockwell Strangler and Ronnie Kray, one of the Kray twins, who ran the firm. |
1:02.3 | Let's just say there were a gang of bad guys who roamed in East London. |
1:07.2 | I was given her book The Devil You Know, which she wrote with Eileen Horn, and I swallowed |
1:12.6 | it as quickly as I could. |
1:14.4 | It combined two of my most favorite interests, psychology and true crime. |
1:19.6 | I could have asked her a thousand more questions as I just want to live inside her brain, but |
1:25.7 | I'm quite happy with the ones I did get to ask. |
1:28.1 | I highly recommend you buy her book. |
1:31.1 | But first, enjoy my interview with the super interesting Dr. Gwen Adset. |
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