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That's PLANet.com. Hi everyone welcome to shift a podcast about mobility. I'm Pete Bigelow reporter

from the automotive news and your host.

Joining me in the studio today is Leslie Allen, the Shift Mobility Editor.

Hi Leslie, how are you today?

I'm doing fine, Pete. How are you doing?

I'm doing great.

I'm excited about today's episode in which we have a

conversation with Marcy Clevorne from Ford. She's currently Ford's chief transformation officer, formerly the President of their Ford Smart Mobility LLC,

and she's retiring in a matter of weeks.

So excited to talk to her about her perspective on where Ford has been as an

auto company and where it's going as a mobility company.

Yeah, that's Ford is probably a pioneer out there in terms of transformation from, you know, strictly working on

automotive to working on mobility. I know that was something that started under Bill Ford, the executive chairman.

Yeah, that really was.

He, you could probably credit him for being the most prescient of the, you know,

automakers or leading the automakers.

It was probably close to two decades ago at this point

where he laid out a vision that auto companies

were no longer just auto companies,

but that there was a much bigger market to serve when you

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