Hey, this is Michael Kaz, and on this podcast, I explore ways of living a more wholehearted and fulfilling life.

I believe in the saying that what is most personal is most universal. On this podcast, you will hear

personal stories of struggle and challenge and what I and my guests have learned from those

experiences. You will hear ideas and concepts that expand your mind on topics like personal development, health, adventure, and sex and relationships. Above all, my intention is to

bring a depth of conversation and stories to connect more with my guest and with you.

Hey, and welcome to the show. Today, I'm talking with a guy named Brian Sanders.

Brian is the creator of the documentary Food Lies. He owns a couple companies. One is called

Nose to Tail Meat, and the other is the Sapiens diet. He has also devoted the last

half decade or so to questioning nutrition science.

And that is kind of encompassed in his documentary food lies.

Today, we start out talking about his experience with the Hudson tribe in Africa, as well as

another tribe in the past year and what he learned from them

from both a nutritional as well as a lifestyle standpoint. We talk about a number of things

related to food such as how it can be that some of the smartest people in the world believe

a vegan diet is the healthiest while some of the other smartest people in the world believe a vegan diet is the healthiest, while some of

the other smartest people in the world think something like a keto or a carnivore diet is

healthiest. We also talk about why some organizations are incentivized to lie to us about what is

healthy.

So without further ado,

please help me welcome Brian Sanders.

Brian, welcome to the show, man.

Hey, man.

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