Hey, this is Michael Caz, and on this podcast, I explore ways of living a more whole-hearted

and fulfilling life.

I believe in the saying that what is most personal is most universal.

On this podcast, you will hear personal stories of struggle and challenge, and what I and

my guests have learned from those experiences.

You will hear ideas and concepts that expand your mind on topics like personal development,

health, adventure, and sex and relationships.

Above all, my intention is to bring a depth of conversation and stories to connect more

with my guests and with you.

Hey, and welcome to the show.

Today I'm talking with a guy named Brian Sanders.

Brian is the creator of the documentary Food Lies.

He owns a couple companies.

One is called Nose to Tail Meat, and the other is the Sapiens Diet.

He has also devoted the last half decade or so to questioning nutrition science, and

that is kind of encompassed in his documentary Food Lies.

Today, we start out talking about his experience with the Hudson Tribe in Africa, as well

as another tribe in the past year, and what he learned from them from both a nutritional

as well as a lifestyle standpoint.

We talk about a number of things related to food, such as how it can be that some of

the smartest people in the world believe a vegan diet is the healthiest while some of

the other smartest people in the world think something like a keto or a carnivore diet

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