Hello, you're listening to me, Liz Earl, with Wellness with Liz Earl.

And following on from the absolutely riveting in-depth chat we had with Helen Browning.

Today I'm continuing our discussions on sustainable organic food production

and I'm absolutely delighted to welcome Joanna Lewis to my well-being studios.

Joanna is the Strategy and Policy Director for the Soil Association's Food for Life.

A national programme all about making good food more easily available to everyone,

whoever and wherever you are.

Joanna, you are so welcome.

Thank you for following on from Helen. Thank you for inviting me.

So tell us a little bit about Food for Life. What is it and what do you do with it?

Food for Life started out more than 14 years ago, very much inspired by a dinner lady

called Jeanette Ory, who went on to inspire Jamie Oliver.

Many may be familiar with Jamie's series and everything that he's done for school food, but it all

started with this rather special dinner lady who decided in her own primary school in

Nottinghamshire that she'd had enough of opening packets

and just serving up processed food to children and she took the food back in-house

and she served seasonal, fresh local and organic food and she proved

proved it was possible.

And she brought that to the Soil Association all those years ago

and together we created this campaign

called Food for Life and it was basically saying

we can't afford for children to be growing up with the normality of regularly eating processed food

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