Flower Foods, Inc. v. Brock
U.S. Supreme Court Oral Arguments
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🗓️ 25 March 2026
⏱️ 78 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | We will hear argument this morning in case 24-935, Flowers, Foods v. Brock. |
| 0:05.8 | Ms. Lovett. |
| 0:06.8 | Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court. |
| 0:10.1 | In Beesonet and Saxon, this Court held that a Section 1 transportation worker must be actively engaged in transportation of goods across borders. |
| 0:26.6 | The class of workers must be directly and actively performing cross-border transportation work. |
| 0:28.6 | Brock picks up goods from a warehouse in Colorado and delivers them to retail outlets in Colorado. |
| 0:35.6 | When he takes the goods, they've crossed their last border, |
| 0:39.3 | and they have been unloaded from the interstate vehicle carrying them. |
| 0:43.6 | Mr. Brock performs no work in cross-border transportation and is not exempt under Section 1. |
| 0:49.6 | This result is faithful to Section 1's text and to this Court's precedent |
| 0:54.1 | because it focuses |
| 0:55.6 | the inquiry on the workers' connectivity to cross-border transportation work. |
| 1:01.9 | Brock's rule departs from text and precedent by focusing on the workers' relationship to a |
| 1:08.4 | good and the goods relationship to interstate commerce. |
| 1:12.8 | And Brock's approach would lead to unlimited chaos. |
| 1:15.8 | It is a world where everything is dispositive and everything is relevant and nothing is dispositive. |
| 1:23.9 | We know that because that's what's happening in the first, ninth and 10th circuits today, all of which follow Brock's approach. |
| 1:31.8 | And Brock's approach sweeps in too many workers into Section 1. Today, in the Ninth Circuit, workers who |
| 1:38.8 | deliver the New York Times in the state of California have been deemed Section 1 exempt workers by the Ninth Circuit |
| 1:46.5 | because the New York Times is printed in another state and arrives in California in boxes |
| 1:51.9 | from another state. Under that logic, the store clerk who unpacks boxes from another state |
| 1:57.9 | and transports them to the shelf should also be exempt. |
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