Noem v. Al Otro Lado
U.S. Supreme Court Oral Arguments
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🗓️ 24 March 2026
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| 0:00.0 | argument next in case 25-5, Nome versus Ootrallado. Mr. Surrey. |
| 0:06.1 | Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court, respondent's position is that when Congress |
| 0:12.1 | said arrives in the United States, it meant stopped outside the United States. |
| 0:18.7 | That theory is wrong for the simple reason that it defies the statutory |
| 0:22.5 | text. You can't arrive in the United States while you're still standing in Mexico. That should be |
| 0:29.0 | the end of this case. But even if you see some ambiguity in the text, the Court's decision in |
| 0:34.9 | sale should clinch the case for us. |
| 0:42.4 | In sale, this Court determined that the protections of the Refugee Convention and the withholding of deportation statute do not extend to aliens outside the United States |
| 0:48.8 | and further that it is entirely lawful for the executive branch |
| 0:53.5 | to prevent aliens from reaching |
| 0:55.8 | U.S. soil and claiming those protections. |
| 0:59.2 | If Congress meant to depart from that territorial approach when it adopted the statute here |
| 1:04.3 | just three years after sale, it would have said so. |
| 1:08.1 | It didn't. |
| 1:09.7 | This Court should, therefore, uphold the metering policy and |
| 1:13.3 | reverse the Ninth Circuit's judgment. |
| 1:16.5 | Are there treaty obligations that are implicated by either the metering policy or the issues here? |
| 1:25.8 | No, there are not, Justice Thomas. |
| 1:32.0 | Respondents rely primarily here on the refugee convention and the protocol. |
| 1:37.2 | But there are two reasons for which those don't apply in this case, and those aren't violated by metering. |
| 1:38.7 | The first is, as this Court held in sale, those provisions simply don't apply extraterritorially. They apply to the |
| 1:46.9 | return of someone from the United States, not to, in sale, the return of Haitian refugees |
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