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The Next Big Idea

FLOURISH: Daniel Coyle on the Art and Science of Feeling Alive

The Next Big Idea

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Education, Social Sciences, Science, Society & Culture

4.41.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

What does it mean to flourish? According to author Daniel Coyle, flourishing is “joyful, meaningful growth — shared.” But how do you achieve that enviable state? The answer lies in Dan’s forthcoming book, “Flourish,” which you can pre-order now on Amazon, Audible, or Bookshop.org. Highlights: (5:11) Life isn't a treasure hunt; it’s more like treasure creation (14:15) The $90 million deli that said no to Disney (20:40) Your brain’s two attention systems (58:00) The rule of the beautiful mess (65:07) Why you should open yellow doors Sponsored By: GoDaddy | Get a domain and professional email plan for just $0.99/month at Godaddy.com/GDNOW Aura Frames | Get $35 off Aura’s best-selling Carver Mat frames by using promo code IDEA at auraframes.com The Next Big Idea Club | Know someone who devours great nonfiction? Get them a year of the best new ideas and take 20% off with code PODCAST at nextbigideaclub.com

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0:00.0

I'm Rufus Griscombe and this is the next big idea. Today, the surprising power of widening your gaze. I'm What does it mean to flourish?

0:30.3

I don't know exactly, but I like the sound of it.

0:33.6

It evokes growth, health, possibility.

0:36.8

I also associate it with the positive psychology movement,

0:40.0

started by McCell McSatmi-high and Martin Seligman some 30 years ago. What's positive psychology?

0:46.5

It's just applying the tools of science to help people live the best lives they can, rather than just

0:51.8

manage mental illness. Why did it take the field of psychology

0:55.6

so long to do this? I've always wondered this, but it's a field that's given rise to decades

1:00.8

of research and writing that has inspired millions. You could say that it's a continuation of a

1:07.0

distinctly American tradition. Just a couple of weeks ago, Walter Isaacson and I talked about how Ben Franklin was in some

1:14.1

sense the father of the self-help genre.

1:17.0

Though intellectuals have looked down their noses at self-help for centuries, I think it contains

1:22.0

within it some of the best of the American sensibility.

1:25.6

When you think about it, implicit in the term self-help is the idea that

1:28.9

we can, through our own efforts at collective learning, improve ourselves. We can help each other

1:34.1

better navigate the world. But there's one problem at the core of this enterprise. It's lonely.

1:41.3

Optimize your habits, hack your morning routine, find your why. It's you versus yourself.

1:47.0

One of my favorite writers and thinkers has a new book coming out in February. He says the only

1:52.3

kind of flourishing is collective flourishing. There's no such thing as doing it yourself.

1:58.0

Like there aren't any flourishing hermits, right? They might be doing some really interesting thinking, but they're probably not like growing

2:05.0

in this joyful, meaningful way.

2:07.1

We require other people for that.

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