Hi and welcome to the Working Songwriter.

The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop, I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration,

their process on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So, whether you're a

grizzled veteran who once went on a stadium tour in the 1980s that grossed so much money,

the IRS had to dedicate an entire task force to you or else a scrappy upstart, starting a thread

on Reddit about the need to unionize bands that make $50 a show at DIY venues. This is your show

because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most and ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

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