Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, quantizing snare drum hits by hand in Pro Tools,

or else a scrappy upstart, just hitting Select All and quantizing the whole song in less than a second,

this is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an iron-clad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey, everybody, it's the first Friday of 2023, and I thank you for joining us.

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