Hi and welcome to the working songwriter.

The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop, I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration,

on the process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzles veteran, desperately trying to cut your costs on merchandise, or else

a scrappy upstart, trying to source artisanal hand woven t-shirts for your band's Etsy store.

This is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an iron clad

excuse to put off, actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the second Friday of December 2022 and I thank you for joining us.

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