If you give up before you grow up, if you forsake the fact that you still have breath,

and you cannot somehow tie that into the reality that what God has planned for you is still unfolding,

then you'll miss what God ultimately has for you.

And I don't want that to happen to anybody.

I'm excited today.

You're about to meet one of my new friends.

I'm going to get to know you as well, Toray.

Toray Roberts is here.

And thank you, man.

Thanks for hanging out for a little bit.

I'm really honored to be on your podcast, and thanks for having me.

Well, I have gotten to be on your wife had me on a while back. So if you don't know,

Sarah Jakes-Roberts, that is, I'm quite sure you have probably heard of her. And they're a little duo and a team leading a church in Dallas, leading a huge church in Dallas.

We're in Dallas too.

I don't know if we talked about that earlier.

But yeah, grateful for your life and ministry, yours and Sarah Jakes.

So tell me a little bit about the new book and kind of what we're

going to get into today. Very good. Well, I got to tell you, I've never been more excited about

a message. And this is book number four. And so, you know, I can say that I felt a little bit like that with each of them, but this one is different.

This is the type of book that if I don't write another book, I will feel confident and comfortable and satisfied that this book is in the earth.

And yeah, it's so true. And it's kind of invigor with all of the work and the press because of

the message of it but i think it's it's a very timely message so it's knowing and the subtitle is

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