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Welcome to the chase.

Hello and welcome to another episode of chasing excellence.

My name is Patrick Cummings.

And as always, joined by Ben Bergeron.

Thank you so much for tuning in to the show.

How the heck are you been?

I'm doing great.

Excited to chat. As always, we're going to, what we've got coming up. You sent me a text the other day.

He said, let's talk about stress. I said, okay, cool, let's talk about stress. So I made a note to talk about

stress. So that's what we're going to do today. I want to tee it up with our mutual friend, E.C. Sinkowski, she was just on the show a few weeks ago. She's got this,

you know, you know, the consistency project, which is the podcast we do. It started with just

the thing she put together, which is like, here are four things to check off. And it's like,

you know, it's protein, it's vegetables. Did you work out today? I think there's a sleep thing.

But all of it is kind of centered on like, can these things will help you reduce your stress.

And we've you know she's been on the the podcast before so we kind of talked about why stress was an important factor to her and why maybe stress wasn't part of the five factors

that we talk about at least not specifically. So I'm just kind of put that on the table.

I don't know exactly where we're going to go with this conversation. But I just wanted to

kind of maybe start there with like we don't really talk about stress that often. We certainly talk

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