Welcome to the Judge John Hodgman podcast. I'm Bale of Jesse Thorn. This week, Fight Court.

William brings the case against his wife, Ren. Ren is a member of an amateur boxing gym. William

wants to join her gym. Ren is concerned about him overshadowing her hobby. Who's right? Who's

wrong? Only one can decide. Please rise. As Judge John Hodgman enters the courtroom and presents an

obscure cultural reference. David was like, there's another downtown artist talking about boxing in

New York. That's my thing. So he challenged me to a boxing match. I thought about it and I decided

I'm going to call myself the Herring Wonder. I had this idea that I would be a reincarnated

turn of the century Jewish boxer and I would be fueled by herring and I would have herring breath

in the ring. So I accepted the challenge. It's on. Bale of Jesse Thorn, please swear them in.

William and Ren, please rise and raise your right hands. You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth,

and nothing but the truth. So help you God or whatever. I do. I do. Do you swear to abide by Judge

John Hodgman's ruling despite the fact that he has a week right cross? I do. Judge Hodgman,

you may proceed. The only thing weaker is my left jab. Yeah, watch for the hook though.

Yeah, you'll see it coming. It's very slow. Cool breeze taught us that. William and Ren,

you may be seated for an immediate summary judgment in one of your favors. Can either of you name

the piece of culture I referenced when I entered the courtroom? William, let's start with you.

I think I'm going to have to go with Mike Tyson and an interview before he got into boxing. Maybe

he did herring fishing. Okay. Mike Tyson and an alternate universe in Washi Fish for Herring.

It's a good guess. Ren, what's your guess? I'm going to guess the Barbara Streisand film,

the main event. Barbara Streisand film, the main event. Wrong, it was from a star, his born.

Wrong. It's called Yendol. Well, all guesses are wrong. Jesse, can you name the cultural

reference you should be able to? That's from one of my favorite television shows of all time,

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