Fear of the Reformer
Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak
Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 19 May 2026
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
It’s robe dinner, and the hags are thinking live. Kate channels the rage of knocking furniture during a home workout, while Jacqueline dissects “cramps”. Should we all be on peptides? When a waiter re-serves your leftovers and memories of living at Sea. Typing out each other’s addresses. Couples Therapy, Taxicab Confessions and a new savior. Overvaluing the smooth canvas. Kate may be getting jacked, Jacqueline promotes the workout cave. Practicing the monologue… if you can cover it up, it’s not inherent.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Kate Burland. |
| 0:02.3 | I'm Jacqueline Novak. |
| 0:03.4 | And this is Pug, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends. |
| 0:08.1 | Two untamable intellects. |
| 0:09.9 | This is our hobby. |
| 0:10.7 | This is our hell. |
| 0:11.6 | This is our naked desire for free products. |
| 0:13.9 | This is Pug. |
| 0:15.3 | Today's topics, loosely speaking. |
| 0:17.1 | Robe dinner, dojo, chilly tonight. |
| 0:24.8 | Yeah. Robe Dinner, Dojo, Chili Tonight. There's a lot to talk about, first of all, something that, and then people are going to roll their eyes, are going to go, oh, no. |
| 0:29.9 | Or I don't know what they're going to do, but I was, I saw a hag yesterday devoted hag. |
| 0:36.0 | Really? |
| 0:36.6 | Who's listened to every episode from the whole time. And he was like, when are you guys going to talk about? Sex. Peptides. Oh, oh. Okay. Yeah, but. Because I have no knowledge. Well, no one does really, but here's the thing. I'm an... I'm so scared. Just a little support during the day. |
| 1:10.5 | Got this shirt in the fifth grade. My friend lived in Paris for a year, Laura. I remember this, yeah. Brought you that. That's so cute. I know. But how's your arm threaded through? Oh, it's... Drip. I get it, I get it. But peptides, listen. Yeah. Actually, there's not to talk about. |
| 1:11.4 | We're not talking about this. I think what the only thing to talk about, right? |
| 1:13.4 | Because there's a lot of talking about. |
| 1:26.6 | I think what the only thing to talk about, right, is the fact that people are on them. Yeah, and that people are juiced. Have you heard about Slank? No. I don't know what that is. And I don't know if the peptide. But I know, because what a word you've never heard before. And listen, there's the peptide world. |
| 1:29.0 | There's like the GLP1, like, weight loss stuff. |
| 1:29.0 | But then there's, and the stuff that, there's the peptide world. There's like the GLP1, like, weight loss stuff. |
| 1:44.0 | But then there's, and the stuff that, here's the stuff that I'm really getting horny thinking about. Cognitive function. Well, have you started? Gray matter, sweetie. No, fuck. You're on it? Yeah. How is it? Are you feeling it? I mean, I have produced like six videos for me and Chris's accounts. |
| 1:45.2 | That's huge. |
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