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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak

Two Jackalopes

Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak

Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak

Spirituality, Comedy, Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Frozen Poog is served. Mr. Novak has entered the group chat and fears of lyme disease resurface. Jacqueline explains the celebrity kook, while Kate takes the long walk home that heals. Naming the competitor and the Erewhon of New York. Playing the free thing off as a special treat... own up, folks. Kate won’t be shamed for eating fast and Jacqueline takes the new subway. The International postal system continues to delight. Remembering the Pinkberry lawsuit and two hours in line for chalky sprinkles and snake tongue. 

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Kate Burland.

0:02.3

I'm Jacqueline Novak.

0:03.4

And this is Pug, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

0:08.1

Two untamable intellects.

0:09.9

This is our hobby.

0:10.7

This is our hell.

0:11.6

This is our naked desire for free products.

0:13.9

This is Pug.

0:15.3

Today's topics, loosely speaking.

0:17.0

Self-crank, Jack Rabbit, a sisterly conversation.

0:24.6

Hello.

0:25.3

Hi.

0:26.3

Oh, you're going to have glasses on and I want to have glasses on.

0:27.7

Well, you know, we signed up, we signed up for a podcast, okay, a long time ago.

0:32.4

And suddenly it's all video all the time.

0:35.0

I know.

0:36.1

Folks, you know what I mean.

0:37.4

Okay, it's, and then my rage in the mornings going, I have to be on video and going all video all the time. I know. Folks, you know what I'm.

0:37.8

Okay.

0:55.6

And then my rage in the mornings going, I have to be on video and going like, fuck that. I'm an artist. Yeah, yeah, of course. You know, so. It's a video world. Look what I found. My whoop. It's been missing. It's been missing? It's been missing? It was in one of my, it's been missing.

1:12.0

By the way, my father is in there now. He's in the whoop group. But he hasn't announced himself or anything. But he told me he was champion of the sleep or something. Wow. Like last week, he's like, I was the champion. And then it's incredible in there in the whoop group. And then, anyway, but hello, I just want to say hello. Hi. It's an honor to see you, my dear friend. I have this new obsession, like medical obsession that something's wrong with my left eye. And I had a dream. I was having a little eye pain. And then I had a dream that my left eye was like medically wrong, like fucked up big bulging, like popping out. And so now, of course, I'm living with that. Well, last three, you were afraid of something else. When you, I remember since, that's true. Actually, those are a text we should bring up. Because you felt it in your bones. Okay, so two things, two things. I know. And I'm not going to talk about aliens this time because I actually need to move away from it because I watched so many alien videos this weekend. Oh, really? That I,

1:48.0

I need to move away. But I, but here's one of the things that happened to me. So after I had

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