I feel like we have to comfortable being uncomfortable.

It requires us being vulnerable in a way that we have not had to this whole time

and admitting that we have privilege in one place,

maybe not another, adds to the conversation of nuance.

But I am trying to learn more publicly, so I feel like I'm really trying to work through this

with you right now without being afraid of saying the wrong thing to be an example to be a

demonstration of how to do this so that other people can want to do it to and not be afraid

to be wrong in hopes of being better.

You are listening to Made of Human,

also known as the Mole Pod, a podcast hosted by Sophie Hagen,

who is a Danish comedian trying to find out how to do life

but it turns out nobody knows mopah

Just a reminder that we do technically do trigger warnings on this podcast but they are all in the show notes.

So if you are wondering what is about to come, go to your show notes and find out there.

Thank you so much for deciding to listen to this Made of Human

podcast episode. I am Sophie Hagen, I'm your host and this is an episode

with the incredible Jay also known as Comfy Fat. J is a super fat non-binary internet presence from the

US. I was about to say what state but I genuinely don't remember. It's all the same to me as a

silly European person. Well, let's not go into that. The In'and Out of Europe, anyways, you are going to enjoy this episode very, very much.

We talk a fair bit about being non-binary since we both are. You will have heard in the last

episode from Jamie Windust, who is also non-binary, so I feel like this is almost

coincidentally quite a little non-binary guest streak we're going through,

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