Fascist echoes w/ Adam Tooze

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🗓️ 16 March 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Adam Tooze returns to PTO to discuss the key causal factors that allowed fascism to emerge in the early twentieth century and whether conditions that would enable fascism on the interwar model exist today. We also talked about whether describing the Bolsanaros, the Le Pens and the Orbans of this world as fascist may be analytically wrong but tactically effective, and about how close the Latin American dictatorships of the 1970s and 80s are to the fascist model. Links: Adam's chartbook post: https://adamtooze.substack.com/p/chartbook-166-19222022-the-centenary Eurotrash podcast episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-6-sex-fascism-73970252 Adam on The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy: https://soundcloud.com/poltheoryother/adam-tooze-on-nazi-ideology-and-the-german-war-economy Adam on Shutdown: How Covid Shook the World's Economy: https://soundcloud.com/poltheoryother/adam-tooze-on-shutdown-how-covid-shook-the-worlds-economy Part one and two of Adam on Crashed: How a Decade of Financial Crises Changed the World: https://soundcloud.com/poltheoryother/20-adam-tooze-on-crashed-how-a-decade-of-financial-crises-changed-the-world https://soundcloud.com/poltheoryother/23-adam-tooze-on-crashed-how-a-decade-of-financial-crises-changed-the-world-part-2

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0:05.0	The men beat on their drums. I'm going to be. I'm going to I'm going to
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0:28.6	so
0:30.6	and Hello and welcome to another episode of Politics Theory Other.
0:49.4	My name is Alex Doherty and my guest today is Adam Too's.
0:53.1	In today's interview we talked about
0:54.6	Adam's view on whether the contemporary far right can meaningfully be characterized as
0:58.9	fascist in the sense of being closely comparable to Italian fascism and German Nazism
1:04.0	of the interwar period and World War II. The interview was prompted by a recent conversation
1:09.5	Adam had with Nick Mulder, Anton Yeager and Dominic
1:12.4	Luster on the Euro Trash podcast, as well as a subsequent post on his chartbook blog, which I'd very much
1:18.1	encourage listeners to check out, and you can find links to both in the description of today's
1:22.5	episode.
1:23.5	The interview took place before the forore over Gary Linneker and the BBC blew up,
1:28.3	and for clarity's sake, and since we didn't address the issue of Linneker's intervention in the interview,
1:33.2	it's worth saying that when government ministers speak of migrant invasions and migrant swarms,
1:38.2	we are indeed, as Linneka suggested, seeing language very much reminiscent of the darkest moment in modern history.
1:44.5	Those who are attacking Linneker for associating the UK government's migration bill
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