Fascism and the Naturalistic Fallacy
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🗓️ 13 April 2026
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody. It's James Lindsay and you are listening to New Discourse's Bullets, where I give a single bullet point-like summary of a topic from Woke that we need to understand so that we can defeat it. I'm doing a little |
| 0:22.5 | bit of a series on fascism and related topics. In fact, I think of fascism and national socialism |
| 0:27.7 | as very close cousins. Literally, I think they're more like brothers within the same kind of |
| 0:33.4 | ideological framework. And that framework should be called in general woke nationalism. So |
| 0:40.2 | the wokeness applies to an ideal collective called a nation. So there's an ideal vision of a |
| 0:46.4 | nation out there. That's the woke part. And it works as a collective. So you have a collectivist |
| 0:52.3 | politics and all the rest of the woke stuff we're used to |
| 0:55.6 | follow. So it's not a communist model that operates according to classes, but rather it is a |
| 1:02.1 | different model that operates according to the concept of an extended family called a nation |
| 1:08.0 | to which people have duty. And a lot of people, this is an interesting podcast because I'm going to talk about something |
| 1:15.5 | that's more relevant to national socialism. |
| 1:17.9 | Like I said, fascism and national socialism are kind of brothers ideologically. |
| 1:23.0 | But it doesn't apply as specifically to kind of the very kind of straight fascism of Benito Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, although it's there. |
| 1:34.0 | But this is a very national socialist thing, which is I think the result of Nazism not actually being kind of predicated on a really Christian structure. |
| 1:50.4 | Mussolini had a Catholicism. It wasn't, I mean, the point was a fascist state. He's very clear |
| 1:55.2 | about that, but there was like a Catholicism that put sort of a limit on this sort of evolutionary eugenics thinking that the Nazis did not |
| 2:03.8 | have as a limiting factor. They were all in on eugenics. They were going to breed the perfect Germans |
| 2:10.4 | and they were going to use the perfect bred Germans to outcompete the whole world. And this is the |
| 2:16.6 | topic that I want to talk about is underneath |
| 2:18.4 | fascism, and in particular underneath national socialism, and in particular, when there's |
| 2:25.2 | less Christian belief involved, what you have is a, how do I put this? It's an evolutionary model, it is, but it's not. It's wrong on the |
| 2:38.6 | evolution. But there's a naturalistic fallacy to this. There's this, if it is natural, then it is |
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