Before we get started, I wanted to let you know this episode includes discussion of sex abuse.

It is January 25th, 2020 at about 7 in the morning.

And I am just getting in my car to head to finally see what Father Ryan has to say.

Everything I thought about Father Ryan was about to change. He had agreed to meet again, and this time he said he'd go on the record.

I was ready to finally get some answers.

But there would be something that caught me off guard.

And it would alter my whole image of Father Ryan.

I'm gonna pick up my brother on the way there.

And then we have a nice three hour drive.

My brother Dan and I are road tripping to see Father Ryan.

And then we'll just see if he actually shows up.

Unlike our last meeting, this time I picked the location.

I wasn't going to make the drive and end up with nothing again.

So I only agreed to come if I could record.

I wasn't sure how the interview would go or how many questions I'd actually get to ask.

If the Father Ryan I met months ago showed up today,

then this interview wasn't going to last long.

At that last meeting, he seemed almost scripted.

I didn't get any of the answers I wanted.

But that wasn't the guy who walked through the door this time.

30 minutes ahead of schedule, Father Ryan walked down the hallway and into the conference

room I rented for the interview.

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