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The Binge Cases: U R NEXT

Fake Priest | 9. How To Get Away With Fraud

The Binge Cases: U R NEXT

Sony Music

Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.04.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Until now, Father Ryan has mostly escaped punishment for stealing money from followers under false pretenses. What would it take for him to face a jury of his peers? A Neon Hum Media and Sony Music Entertainment production. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts to binge all episodes now or listen weekly wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Father Ryan is under the spotlight.

0:03.0

Literally, my spotlight.

0:06.0

We've been talking in this conference room for over an hour now.

0:10.0

I brought microphones to our interview, of course course but I also brought my camera and

0:15.4

studio lights I knew Ryan would like that he clearly came to perform

0:20.4

Ryan's freshly cut white hair makes him look like he's in his perform. He set a black plastic storage bin on a small table next to him.

0:34.4

Files and papers stuck out of it.

0:37.2

Inside, he claimed to have proof of his priesthood.

0:41.6

I have no idea what that could be. That's one of the things I've

0:48.3

been trying to sort out since I began investigating him. Two years in, I was confident he's not a priest, at least

0:56.8

not ordain the way he claims to be. I decided not to immediately go after Ryan with what I'd found.

1:05.0

Instead, I wanted to see what he'd do.

1:09.0

See this so-called proof.

1:11.0

This would be my moment to hear Ryan's pitch to his followers. Let him try to

1:16.7

convince me. Then I'd get to my questions, things I'd wondered about for years.

1:24.6

What does he have to say to his victims?

1:27.0

After being caught so many times,

1:29.6

why continue to insist he's done nothing wrong.

1:34.2

In this final episode, we'll hear his answers.

1:39.4

From Neon Home Media, I'm Alex Schuman,

1:42.4

and this is Smcreen, fake priest. The apprehension and hesitation he had at the start about his abuse and shared deeply personal things.

2:10.0

It's at this point I asked him about getting ordained.

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