Faith that Endures | Francis Chan & Joni Eareckson Tada

Crazy Love Podcast

Crazy Love Ministries

Religion & Spirituality:christianity, Religion, Christianity, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 2.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Today, Francis Chan sits down with Joni Eareckson Tada for a deeply personal conversation about perseverance, joy, and enduring faith in a life marked by suffering. Joni shares how nearly 60 years in a wheelchair, seasons of pain, illness, and discouragement have become the place where Jesus meets her most intimately, strengthening her to “fight for joy” day after day. Together, they talk about what helps believers endure to the end: partnering with the Holy Spirit, building a “repository” of Scripture to combat lies, and learning to see hardship as an invitation to know Christ more deeply (Philippians 3:8–10). Joni also reflects on the beauty of community that grows organically around weakness, the joy of serving “the least of these,” and the hope of heaven that shapes how we live now. If you’ve been discouraged, tired, or tempted to give up, this episode will strengthen your faith and remind you that Jesus is near and worth holding onto. And we encourage you to dive deeper into a revelation of the love of God with Francis’ latest book, “Beloved.” It’s available now wherever books are sold.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Crazy Love podcast. What does it look like to endure when suffering doesn't let up?
0:12.0	Today, Francis talks with Johnny Eric Santata, and Johnny shares how she's learned to fight for joy and draw strength from Christ day after day.
0:21.6	Their conversation echoes one of the central themes of Francis' book, Beloved,
0:26.6	learning to trust God's love and hold fast to Him through every season.
0:35.6	All right, well, Johnny, before we even get into any type of interview, I just want to thank
0:42.6	you so much as my sister, just for the life that you've lived.
0:48.1	I'm just more and more, you know, the older we get and the closer we get to the end.
0:52.5	Yes.
0:53.4	There's just so much to be grateful for.
0:57.9	And I also think there's very few people in my life who have ministered to me the way that
1:04.3	you have by your example, by your love, the way I just know, okay, she understands,
1:10.7	she gets us, she understands.
1:11.5	She gets us.
1:14.4	She understands the love of Christ.
1:19.4	And so I'm just honestly, eternally grateful for you.
1:24.5	I think about you all the time whenever there are struggles, difficulties.
1:30.3	I picture you, your face, your joy, your worship. I do.
1:31.3	Oh, God.
1:32.3	I seriously do.
1:33.3	I love Jesus, Francis.
1:34.3	I do.
1:35.3	I know.
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