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Crazy Love Podcast

Marriage on Mission (Pt. 1) | Francis & Lisa Chan

Crazy Love Podcast

Crazy Love Ministries

Religion & Spirituality:christianity, Religion, Christianity, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

What if marriage was never meant to just be about your happiness? In Part 1 of this candid and challenging teaching, Francis and Lisa Chan invite listeners to rethink marriage, family, and discipleship through the lens of eternity. Drawing from decades of shared ministry, they show that unity, joy, and intimacy in marriage are often the byproducts of pursuing God’s mission together... not the primary goal. Francis and Lisa share vulnerable stories from their own lives: downsizing their home, giving sacrificially, moving in faith, fostering teens, raising children with an eternal perspective, and learning to say “yes” to God even when it was costly. They confront the cultural obsession with comfort and ask whether the Church has replaced God’s Kingdom with the pursuit of a “happy Christian family.” This episode is a hope-filled call to seek first the Kingdom of God and trust Him with everything else. If today’s conversation challenges you and you want to go deeper, visit youandmeforever.org. There you can order the book “You and Me Forever,” watch chapter videos, explore bonus content, and learn more about the mission behind it all.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Crazy Love podcast. What's the goal of your marriage? To be faithful,

0:12.1

maybe your personal happiness. In today's episode, Francis and Lisa Chan challenged the way we

0:17.7

think about marriage, family, and fulfillment.

0:26.9

They ask hard questions about eternity, sacrifice, and what it really means to seek God's kingdom first, and how that pursuit can transform not just your marriage, but your entire life.

0:33.6

And keep listening after today's episode for a special update from Francis and Lisa as they share how their book, You and Me Forever, has impacted more than just marriages, but thousands of lives around the world.

0:49.4

We wrote a book recently, You and Me Forever, and I know there are already a million marriage

0:57.5

books out there, but I guess I'd been convicted about something for a long time.

1:05.7

And that was when I would read this book, the Bible, and I would read everything that Jesus said about marriage and

1:16.4

family. I mean, imagine if you just took every verse where Jesus mentioned marriage or father,

1:24.3

mother, wife, kids, and you just wrote down what Jesus said. I think it'd be a far cry

1:32.9

from a lot of the things that we say about marriage or emphasize regarding marriage. That

1:40.4

in no ways he's saying, I don't want you to enjoy your marriage or this or that or whatever else,

1:47.0

but what's the focus of those passages?

1:51.0

And it's this idea that in light of eternity, eternity changes everything.

1:57.0

The fact that there's a hell, that changes everything.

2:09.3

The fact that one day, any second, our lives are going to be over, this could be my last day on earth, that changes everything.

2:17.0

Because I'm going to stand before a holy God and I'm not judged just on how happy were you two.

2:19.7

I don't see that in Scripture.

2:28.4

I see passages like in 1st Corinthians 7, how Paul says in verse 29.

2:30.0

This is what I mean, brothers.

2:33.1

The appointed time has grown very short.

2:39.0

From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none.

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