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Crazy Love Podcast

To Live Is Christ, To Die Is Gain - A Final Conversation

Crazy Love Podcast

Crazy Love Ministries

Spirituality, Religion, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality:christianity

4.82.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2026

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

This is a sacred and deeply personal conversation between Francis and his close friend, Alan, shared with permission from the family. In this phone call, a pastor nearing the end of his earthly life reflects on suffering, peace, intimacy with God, and the hope found in Jesus Christ. What unfolds is not a polished sermon, but an honest, unscripted testimony of faith, spoken in weakness, clarity, and deep trust in God. Our hope is that these words would encourage those who are suffering, those walking with loved ones through pain, and anyone longing to understand the peace that Scripture describes as “beyond understanding.” We invite you to listen slowly, prayerfully, and with reverence. “He will never leave you nor forsake you.”

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0:00.0

So this video or audio you're about to listen to is very different from anything I've done.

0:09.0

It's kind of almost an accident.

0:13.0

So a friend of mine is dying and I hadn't talked to him in years.

0:19.0

And when I heard about it, I gave him a call.

0:22.6

And he was just speaking so much life by his words

0:28.6

or something about talking to someone

0:31.6

on what potentially could be the last day of his life.

0:35.6

And when we were done done I was like gosh I

0:40.0

wish everyone could hear that and he says well actually my wife videoed this

0:45.9

you know and the words he shared were so powerful that I asked is there any way I could get a copy of that and just share

0:57.1

it with people? It's one thing for a person to preach or to teach the word when, like right now,

1:04.4

for me to share something with you. It's another thing. If I'm about to face God, then it's so imminent.

1:13.6

And so this wasn't meant to be a podcast, and so it'll be a little personal.

1:20.6

It's a guy that I've known for many years, but I really want us to dwell on it and be blessed by it and understand this is the hope

1:32.3

this is the way we ought to be at the end of our lives so I rather have him I rather

1:42.6

experience the power of Christ every day that he gives me than the power,

1:47.6

than no power at all. So I get to trust him and entrust my day with him. And I could

1:56.3

interest that. My God is infully wise and sovereign and and he's loved for me to steadfast.

2:06.0

So I'm just basking and all the things that I've learned so far in my Christian life.

2:13.3

Wow.

2:14.3

He will never leave me or forsake me and then.

2:17.1

That's right.

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