Hi, it's Andy here and welcome to Radio Headspace and to Monday morning.

I hope you had a good weekend.

Now I guess we all do different things with our weekends.

I have one friend in particular who spends most of his time hiking in the mountains or

worries on a motorbike. He likes to do sort of adventurous things and just over the weekend

he hiked for about 35 miles.

Now for most of us I think that would be a fairly sort of daunting task.

Even for him actually and I know he loves these things that challenge him and push him sort

of to the next level even for him and the group that he went with.

That was an exceptionally long hike.

Especially as it was up into the mountains it was cold, snowy, there was no real kind of way down

other than to follow the trail to the end of it. And in talking to him,

I got to say I actually felt quite inspired about the idea, not necessarily of hiking 35 miles,

that didn't inspire me. But it did inspire me in the sense of challenging myself in doing things

that maybe I don't know, I was perhaps being a little reticent about doing all that I've wanted

to do and haven't done for some reason. And it reminded me of a project we were working on a

few months back where we went to interview various researchers around longevity and really sort

of the resilience that people are able to find in life through really difficult challenges.

Some of those challenges are through choice and some, you know, in the case of imprisonment

and that kind of thing obviously not through choice. And the interviewer was asking,

so are you saying it's this old idea of whatever doesn't kill you make you stronger? And the

researchers said, no, not really, it's more whatever doesn't kill you makes you realize what you're

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