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INSIDE AND OUTSIDE: Nature + Pop Culture News with Jessica Murnane

Extinction Of Experience, The Truth About Barbie, and The Tiktokfication of The Beckham Family Drama with Tarpley Hitt

INSIDE AND OUTSIDE: Nature + Pop Culture News with Jessica Murnane

Jessica Murnane

Leisure, Home & Garden, Society & Culture

4.9651 Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

In this episode we talk about Extinction of Experience (the loss of nature-human interactions), the wild and untold story of Barbie and Mattel (lawsuits, coporate espionage, and theft!), the Tiktokfication of celebrity news (the Beckhams and Scandoval), plus a surprise inside pick. 

About this week's guest: Tarpley Hitt is an author, journalist, and an editor / contributor to The Drift magazine. She has previously reported on culture and money for The Daily Beast and Gawker, and her work has also appeared in The New York TimesThe Paris ReviewThe Guardian, and Air Mail, among others. Her first book is Barbieland.


Show notes!
This week's sponsor: The Working Garden Project

Tarpley's
website
Barblieland
Barbieland's
NYT book review

Things we talked about:
Extinction of experience: the loss of human-nature interactions
Reborn Dolls
End It Like Beckham (on Hulu)

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This season is brought to you by the Working Garden Project. Did you know that 74% of employees struggle to disconnect from work? The significant percentage say that their job negatively impacts their mental and social well-being. And many employees are considering leaving jobs that don't support their overall health. They need solutions. And based on all the positive benefits that we know that can

0:22.4

come from nature, nature can be one of them. The Working Garden Project is a nationwide effort to

0:28.6

bring the benefits of nature and communal gardening to workplaces across the country. To learn more about

0:34.5

how to bring the Working Garden Project to your company, head to

0:37.9

working gardenproject.com. Whether your company is big or small, the Working Garden Project

0:42.7

has solutions to create more happiness, engagement, and productivity in the workplace.

0:48.4

Again, that's working gardenproject.com.

1:06.5

Okay. Gardenproject.com. Hello, it's season three. We're back. I'm Jessica Mernan, and this is the inside and outside

1:12.0

podcast. If this is your first time here, welcome. A little background after really finding

1:20.1

the incredible benefits of nature and gardening on my own mental and emotional and physical health, I wanted to do the same

1:30.3

for other people. So I went back to school. I studied to become a horticultural therapy practitioner.

1:35.2

And now I get to help people find their own connections to nature through gardening, learning

1:41.2

to grow, flower pressing, just ways of connecting people to the natural earth.

1:47.3

Now, I also really still love watching shitty TV. I love fashion. I love pop culture. I like

1:54.1

internet gossip. So we bring those two things together. Every week I bring a guest on and we talk

2:00.7

a little nature and then we talk a little pop culture.

2:03.8

A couple changes to this season. I'm moving the show to Thursdays. We don't even need to get into the reasons why it's boring.

2:10.7

But two, most episodes, this season will be a little shorter and a little bit more topical.

2:17.2

We'll do a piece of nature news or a cool journal or research study and then we'll dive right

2:23.3

into pop culture. Some episodes will be a little bit on the longer side if I'm talking to an author

2:28.5

or we're talking about a bigger topic. But otherwise, they're going to be shorter, sweeter,

2:34.0

light, and fun. This week is going to be

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