New Species of Butterflies, Tell Me Lies, and What To Watch After Heated Rivalry with Ally Holleb
INSIDE AND OUTSIDE: Nature + Pop Culture News with Jessica Murnane
Jessica Murnane
4.9 • 651 Ratings
🗓️ 19 February 2026
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
This week we talk about the research project to find new species of butterflies, the legal push for plastic producers to pay, Heated Rivalry, Tell Me Lies, Robinne Lee's new book, and lots more!
About this week's guest: Ally is a stylist and personal shopper. Her superpower is helping you find your style and the clothes to go with it.
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Stuff we talked about:
Nine new butterfly species discovered by scientists tackling taxonomic tangle
The Legal Push to Make Plastic Producers Pay via Atmos
Jill Zarin Fired from 'Real Housewives' Reboot
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| 1:07.1 | I'm Jessica Mernan, host of this podcast Inside and Outside and Nature and Pop Culture podcast. |
| 1:13.7 | Why on earth would I bring those two topics together? |
| 1:16.4 | Because I'm obsessed with both. |
| 1:18.1 | I'm a horticultural therapy practitioner who loves helping people find the benefits and their connection to nature. |
| 1:24.5 | And I'm also obsessed with pop culture. |
| 1:26.0 | So we bring those two things together each week. |
| 1:29.1 | This week I brought back a fan favorite. Allie. She's a personal stylist, but she's better known as |
| 1:34.3 | the inside and outside pop culture reporter. Not really, but this week, oh, it's a good one. |
| 1:40.9 | We on the nature side, we're talking about scientists discovering two, not two, nine new species of butterflies. |
| 1:49.0 | How are they doing this? Because it's really hard to determine just by the coloring of their wings. |
| 1:54.0 | We also talk about the push to make plastic producers pay because not only are they providing misinformation, but the damage |
| 2:02.1 | that it's doing to our environment. Pop culture-wise, we talk heated rivalry. We talk |
| 2:07.6 | Robin Lee's new book, which I'm so excited about Allie, sort of ish. Housewives acting just |
| 2:15.3 | repulsively, and then tell me lies, which by the way, I did watch the |
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