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Rick Wilson's The Enemies List

Exposing the Rise of Modern Authoritarianism with Jason Stanley

Rick Wilson's The Enemies List

Resolute Square

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.93.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Today we tackle a new age of politics and propaganda as Rick is joined by philosopher and author Jason Stanley. The two discuss the manipulation of language, propaganda, and the rise of authoritarianism in modern politics. They examine how global far-right movements are using nationalism, immigration fears, and media control to consolidate power, drawing parallels to historical fascist strategies. The conversation delves into the role of education, corporate-state alliances, and the erosion of democratic norms, highlighting the dangerous shift toward kleptocratic authoritarianism. Stanley also discusses his latest book, Erasing History, and the ongoing battle for truth in an age of disinformation. Jason's book, Erasing History, available now. Timestamps: (00:01:40) The use and abuse of language (00:13:18) The new reality (00:17:07) Classic and diet authoritarianism Follow Resolute Square: Instagram Twitter TikTok Find out more at Resolute Square Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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resolute square there was also maintained what was called an enemy's list, which was rather expensive, and continually being updated.

0:46.1

Democrats want Republicans dead.

0:49.8

Where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay?

0:56.0

The women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant are the ones most worried about having abortion.

1:04.0

On January 6th of 2021, you had tens of thousands of people peacefully protesting.

1:13.1

No, it's not a right-wing conspiracy.

1:14.1

You're not queuing on.

1:15.4

It's real.

1:20.0

I'm Rick Wilson, and this is the Enemies List.

1:26.2

Hey, folks, welcome back to the Enemies List podcast.

1:27.4

I'm your host, as always, Rick Wilson, I am joined

1:28.0

today by the brilliant Jason Stanley. Jason is a guy who has studied the politics of language

1:34.1

and the language of politics, if I can sort of loop that back around on itself, wrote a great book

1:39.0

a while back that I absolutely loved called How Fascism Works and has all sort of been called How Propaganda Works.

1:45.4

But I wanted to have Jason on today because we are in the middle of a moment right now where the tools of propaganda and communication and language and politics have all merged with this monstrous sort of nationalist movement and a moment where AI and the tools of

2:03.6

communication and social media platforms have all run together into a gigantic, ugly mass.

2:09.9

And I'm curious today, and I want to have a conversation with you, Jason, about where you see

2:14.9

the use and abuse of language right now in our culture.

2:19.5

And I don't just mean by Donald Trump and Fox and the sort of MAGA right, but more broadly.

2:24.3

And how should we, how should we be thinking about what we're hearing and what we're seeing every day in this moment in our, in this very chaotic moment in history?

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