Trump, Musk, and the Dismantling of America’s Power

Rick Wilson's The Enemies List

Resolute Square

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.9 • 3.9K Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

USAID being dismantled before our eyes is just the beginning. In this episode Rick is joined by Josh Rogin, Lead Global Security Analyst for Washington Post Intelligence, to discuss the shocking dismantlement of USAID by Elon Musk and Donald Trump. They explore the broader implications of this decision, including the erosion of America’s global influence, the potential humanitarian crisis, and how adversaries like China and Russia stand to benefit. The conversation also delves into Trump’s complicated relationship with Xi Jinping, the future of Taiwan, and the geopolitical risks of a second Trump presidency—particularly regarding Ukraine, where Vladimir Putin is poised to take advantage. Timestamps: (00:02:08) Filling the gap after USAID (00:10:29) Giving up Taiwan (00:19:32) If Trump tries to "buy" Gaza Follow Resolute Square: Instagram Twitter TikTok Find out more at Resolute Square Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:28.6	resolute square there was also maintained what was called an enemy's list, which was rather expensive, and continually being updated.
0:46.1	Democrats want Republicans dead.
0:49.8	Where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay?
0:56.0	The women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant are the ones most worried about having abortion.
1:04.0	On January 6th of 2021, you had tens of thousands of people peacefully protesting.
1:13.1	No, it's not right-wing conspiracy.
1:14.1	You're not queuing on.
1:15.4	It's real.
1:20.0	I'm Rick Wilson, and this is the Enemies List.
1:26.3	Hey, folks, it's Rick Wilson, and welcome back to the Enemy's List podcast.
1:32.6	I am delighted to be joined today by Josh Rogan. Josh is one of the smartest guys in foreign policy writing and reporting and has thought a lot about where we are in the world today. And as the lead global
1:37.6	security analyst for the Washington Post Intelligence vertical, he is somebody that that has thought a lot about America in the world,
1:47.2	thought a lot about the moments that we face going forward in this big great power competition
1:52.1	between the U.S. and China in particular. I wrote a terrific book last year, War Under Heaven,
1:57.9	about the U.S. China relationship and what's going to happen going forward
2:02.7	with a lot of nuances and layers in there that I don't think a lot of the people that just
2:07.1	bleat Chinese Communist Party over and over again. I've really thought through.
2:11.1	But Josh, thank you for coming on the show today.
2:13.0	And I wanted to start out with this really shocking moment in our politics in this country right now,
2:19.7	with the dismantlement by Elon Musk and Donald Trump of USAID.
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