A World in Permanent Crisis: Robert Kaplan on Chaos, Decline, and Hope

Rick Wilson's The Enemies List

Resolute Square

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.9 • 3.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Is the world on the brink of permanent instability? In this episode Rick Wilson sits down with renowned author and geopolitical analyst Robert D. Kaplan to discuss his latest book, Wasteland: A World in Permanent Crisis. Together, they explore the challenges of our increasingly interconnected and unstable world, from the decline of great powers and the erosion of democracy to the disruptive forces of AI and automation. Kaplan offers a sobering comparison to the Weimar Republic and stresses the urgent need to rediscover the principles of historic liberalism in the face of rising global disorder. Timestamps: (00:01:42) The current geopolitical order (00:06:48) The overt desire for chaos (00:11:55) The currency of freedom (00:15:25) Facing AI Follow Resolute Square: Instagram Twitter TikTok Find out more at Resolute Square Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:28.6	resolute square there was also maintained what was called an enemy's list, which was rather expensive, and continually being updated.
0:46.1	Democrats want Republicans dead.
0:49.8	Where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay?
0:56.0	The women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant are the ones most worried about having abortion.
1:04.0	On January 6th of 2021, you had tens of thousands of people peacefully protesting.
1:13.1	No, it's not a right-wing conspiracy.
1:14.1	You're not queuing on.
1:15.4	It's real.
1:20.0	I'm Rick Wilson, and this is the Enemies List.
1:24.8	Hey, folks, it's Rick Wilson.
1:26.3	Welcome back to the Enemy's List podcast.
1:28.1	I'm joined today by Robert Kaplan.
1:35.2	Robert is one of the most brilliant and insightful authors about the state of the world and about how we think about this weird, big, messy, global order that we all live in. He's got a great new book
1:41.4	out called Wasteland, a world in permanent crisis.
1:45.3	And this is a book, I think, that looks at the universe that we live in now, the world we live in now with very clear eyes, because it is messy.
1:55.6	It is not just the post-liberal world order that emerged after the Cold War or the or the or the post-9-11
2:04.1	world order but something much more complicated and dangerous and difficult so Robert thank you so
2:09.3	much for coming on the show today I wanted to ask you where do you see the world right now
2:14.1	in terms of of the geopolitical order in terms of what's ahead for what are the great
2:21.9	powers, but may not always be. Yes. Well, it's a pleasure to be with you, Rick. I think the world
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